Frustrated Beyond Measure

baz · Nov 24, 2023

BERT said:
What do you do with the liquid left in the water cooler bottle?

Depends how thirsty or thrifty you are!!!

htown16 · Nov 24, 2023

Does anyone know for sure how much the octane is lowered? Has there every been any testing by a reputable lab that does octane testing on a regular basis?

Fast Eddie · Nov 24, 2023

htown16 said:
Does anyone know for sure how much the octane is lowered? Has there every been any testing by a reputable lab that does octane testing on a regular basis?

That’s what I’d like to know too. The alcohol is there to provide that, so I would have thought removing it lowered it a lot ?

htown16 · Nov 24, 2023

I ran e10 in all my bikes for over 20 years with no ill effects. Did use Stabil if they were going to sit for a while. If for several months I drained the float bowls. Also stayup floats and ethanol resitant petcocks and lines. Costs about 150$ to replace the parts. But never have to worry about it.

concours · Nov 24, 2023

htown16 said:
I ran e10 in all my bikes for over 20 years with no ill effects. Did use Stabil if they were going to sit for a while. If for several months I drained the float bowls. Also stayup floats and ethanol resitant petcocks and lines. Costs about 150$ to replace the parts. But never have to worry about it.

There is the PRACTICAL, no drama, no speculative pontification answer.

BrianK · Nov 24, 2023

SteveA said:
Do you know, this is the question I have had with this....what do I do with ethanol water mix?

That, and, what to do with the several litres of fuel, of any description, that you drain out of the tank when it has gone off?

The stuff left in the bottle after I siphon off the fuel I put into an oil-change drain pan and leave outside to evaporate.

Bad fuel I run through lawnmowers and occasionally my car - the latter not ideal but I figure a few gallons out of a 16 gallon tank won't do much harm. And it hasn't seemed to do so, as far as I've seen.

Torontonian · Nov 24, 2023

SteveA said:
Do you know, this is the question I have had with this....what do I do with ethanol water mix?

That, and, what to do with the several litres of fuel, of any description, that you drain out of the tank when it has gone off?

Here in Toronto you can drive it to a dangerous goods drop off facility operated by the city . Any day time .
In the spring we have Environment day , with city operated drop off sites that set up across the GTA to accept paints , aerosols , batteries , solvents , oils and similar items for proper disposal . The workers wear Hazmat suits and Police re-route local traffic.

SteveA · Nov 25, 2023

BrianK said:
The stuff left in the bottle after I siphon off the fuel I put into an oil-change drain pan and leave outside to evaporate.

Bad fuel I run through lawnmowers and occasionally my car - the latter not ideal but I figure a few gallons out of a 16 gallon tank won't do much harm. And it hasn't seemed to do so, as far as I've seen.

My cats and the local wildlife will be curious about that.......and I don't think much will evaporate around here for a few months!

Nor will I be using my lawnmower till next season! When we had a modern petrol car, I did run the odd half litre of dead fuel through it, but we don't have one right now.

Torontonian · Nov 25, 2023

SteveA said:
My cats and the local wildlife will be curious about that.......and I don't think much will evaporate around here for a few months!

Nor will I be using my lawnmower till next season! When we had a modern petrol car, I did run the odd half litre of dead fuel through it, but we don't have one right now.

Ethylene Glycol ( anti-freeze ) was sweet and cats would lap it up after dripping out of vehicle radiators , then die . Nowadays a chemical is added to make it bitter , so they stay away . Another tidbit , natural gas has no smell . A few drops of a powerful smell chemical added lets you know there is a leak issue and run for the hills .

Triton Thrasher · Nov 25, 2023

Torontonian said:
Ethylene Glycol ( anti-freeze ) was sweet and cats would lap it up after dripping out of vehicle radiators , then die . Nowadays a chemical is added to make it bitter , so they stay away . Another tidbit , natural gas has no smell . A few drops of a powerful smell chemical added lets you know there is a leak issue and run for the hills .

That was the test for presence of anti freeze in an engine’s coolant: does it taste of sugar?

worntorn · Nov 25, 2023

Yale University says it's OK to pour down the drain as long as the concentration is low.
Yale says keep it under 5 %, another uni says keep it under 24%.
If you drink alcohol of any type you are drinking ethanol. When you think of it that way, what a tremendous waste to put perfectly good corn liquor into gasoline! They must have been drunk when hatching that plan.

I wouldnt pour a bottle of Scotch on the ground as it's quite expensive, but if I get stupid and spill my drink it's not going to hurt Mother Earth.

Torontonian · Nov 25, 2023

worntorn said:
Yale University says it's OK to pour down the drain as long as the concentration is low.
Yale says keep it under 5 %, another uni says keep it under 24%.
If you drink alcohol of any type you are drinking ethanol. When you think of it that way, what a tremendous waste to put perfectly good corn liquor into gasoline! They must have been drunk when hatching that plan.

I wouldnt pour a bottle of Scotch on the ground as it's quite expensive, but if I get stupid and spill my drink it's not going to hurt Mother Earth.

View attachment 111104

Looks like Ethanol and Ethylene Glycol are safe to pour down the sanitary sewer . Here in Toronto it all ends up in a storm catchment overflow underground catch basin and then into one of several sewage processing facilities , then into Lake Ontario .
Our water intake to The amazing Harris ( Art Deco ) water filtration plant is a pipe 2 Kms. outwards and down deep .

Frustrated Beyond Measure

Similar threads