Norton trouble

with a lot of unpaid suppliers and no parts it is not possible to build bikes in a amount with profit.
The stock also for spares was the most time empty.
I must wait for some small parts more than one year.
Always excuses and other stupid bla bla

Lincolnshire Poacher said:

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and Norton made about 400 x 961s....apparently.....!

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Well here this from a public info site
326 on the road ( taxes) & 193 off the road ( kept at home untaxed) total 519 in the UK up to last September
The V4 SS well not many !

Eljahara said:

Steve,
Whilst it is commendable that countries are leading the way with renewables, we have to recognise that circumstances are different. The U.K. is 6 times larger than Denmark and significant parts of Scotland and Wales are uninhabited meaning that we have some pretty densely populated urban conurbations - with the attendant demand for energy usage. London alone has a greater population than Denmark. As Fast Eddie said in another thread, if only 5% of motorists switched to Electric vehicles the U.K. energy suppliers could not cope with demand. We agree that something needs to be done but renewables may not be the sole answer in “over developed” countries - a range of options are needed. Add to the mix the total miles of road in the U.K. compared with Scandanavian countries and the total number of vehicles that need replacing and we are facing different challenges(I read that the U.K. has the highest number of personal vehicles per head of population in the West - not sure if that is true but it was contained in a report about EV)

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Agree, you cannot simply map the Danish figures directly over to another country such as the UK or the US. I'm simply pointing out that sitting back, looking at the difficulties and proclaiming that it cannot be done is perhaps not the best way of making progress
The OP was saying that electric vehicles cannot be considered as having zero emissions, but the source of the emissions is not the vehicles, it's the generation system. If one insists on using coal (or "clean coal" to use a currently popular oxymoron) to produce the electrical power, then yes, you've simply moved the source of the emissions. It may well be that such centralised emissions can be more effectively tackled rather than trying to clean up millions of cars etc., but that's a separate debate.

If however you generate power in a clean way, then its a different kettle of fish.

I for one though am not looking forward to electric motorbikes. No soul, no character, just twist and go. Several years ago at Spa, during the riders' briefing prior to the first track session, they had a practice session for e-bikes. This was simply so uninteresting. The lack of engine noise, gear changing, etc., it simply removed all interest in it, not just for me but for everyone in the room (about 600 people).

What about the Commando Street and the new Domi Street?

Commando streets are ‘officially’ commando sports so will be registered as those, thats how they all started. Assume the dominator the same, based on standard dominators.

I wonder how many dominator streets actually sold? There was one at NEC but how many but the road, just a handful I reckon.

Accnor73 said:

Commando streets are ‘officially’ commando sports so will be registered as those, thats how they all started. Assume the dominator the same, based on standard dominators.

I wonder how many dominator streets actually sold? There was one at NEC but how many but the road, just a handful I reckon.

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And the SF model comes under commando sport

The “Moto Guzzi “ Commando 961 (first link) has 391 miles.
The Commando Café Racer (second link) has 6040 miles.

The Moto Guzzi Commando 961 is much more rare.

BritTwit said:

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The “Moto Guzzi “ Commando 961 (first link) has 391 miles.
The Commando Café Racer (second link) has 6040 miles.

The Moto Guzzi Commando 961 is much more rare.

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Then, as doug asked "same bike?" , how come they both have the same no. plate?

Panetone said:

Ask Steward Garner
Then divide by 4 and subtract the half. The Digits must "talked high" to get some Money from the goverment and Bank.

I think the most bikes are running in UK.
Ollie has 52 bikes in his customer file.(ikl. bikes from Danmark, Sweden,Italy, France and UK)
Egli has sold also a lot of bikes.
Some Dealers hve ordered bikes last year ore longer and have got no bikes. (for all bikes is the deposit lost)

Cheers
Panetone

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EGLI: 80-90 bikes

Bernhard said:

Then, as doug asked "same bike?" , how come they both have the same no. plate?

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That is interesting
Original posting for "Moto Guzzi" Commando with 391 miles ended on Monday, 3rd of Feb.
Looks like second posting for Commando Café Racer with 6040 miles modified on Feb 4th.
Different dealers.

Raphi said:

EGLI: 80-90 bikes

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Wow, that is a lot of Commandos!

Lets face it many people have been taken in by this professional conman, it was a giant Ponzi scheme, decades in jail for SG would be a fair punishment. The signs have been there since 2008, it was never a viable business, "playboy turns round bike business " is a headline you won't hear. Let's let it go, never mention the mans name again and move on. Only my opinion

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Well here this from a public info site
326 on the road ( taxes) & 193 off the road ( kept at home untaxed) total 519 in the UK up to last September
The V4 SS well not many ! View attachment 14240View attachment 14241View attachment 14242View attachment 14243View attachment 14244View attachment 14245View attachment 14246

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I’m confused by this. Can someone explain please.

Accnor73 said:

Commando streets are ‘officially’ commando sports so will be registered as those, thats how they all started. Assume the dominator the same, based on standard dominators.

I wonder how many dominator streets actually sold? There was one at NEC but how many but the road, just a handful I reckon.

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But they listed the Dominator Naked as a single bike.

Scott, the DVLA (official vehicle registrations) records bike registrations based on the description that Norton give them at first registration. We have to pay road tax or declare SORN (officially off the road), so if you add up the figures for the bikes that are 'licenced' and those that are 'SORN' you get to the number of bikes the DVLA has records for for that name. No doubt there are a few UK bikes in collections that have never been registered so they don't show up in the count. So for the Domi Naked we have 7 licenced, 2 SORN = 9 known registered bikes in the UK.

Although the figures are fairly accurate it is nor unheard of for the DVLA to make typo errors so it is possible that a few 961's got registered as Norton Commando but it would be near imposible to extract these from the numbers of the 'classic' commandos that have been registered.

MxMartin said:

Scott, the DVLA (official vehicle registrations) records bike registrations based on the description that Norton give them at first registration. We have to pay road tax or declare SORN (officially off the road), so if you add up the figures for the bikes that are 'licenced' and those that are 'SORN' you get to the number of bikes the DVLA has records for for that name. No doubt there are a few UK bikes in collections that have never been registered so they don't show up in the count. So for the Domi Naked we have 7 licenced, 2 SORN = 9 known registered bikes in the UK.

Although the figures are fairly accurate it is nor unheard of for the DVLA to make typo errors so it is possible that a few 961's got registered as Norton Commando but it would be near imposible to extract these from the numbers of the 'classic' commandos that have been registered.

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Mark
Thank you. That makes sense now.

Raphi said:

EGLI: 80-90 bikes

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Yes, he was one of the first outside U.K. and “sponsored” Norton with Swiss Francs which was apparently necessary (foreign currency in U.K.) for Norton to become government support.
I have one of the last Egli imported Commando 961 and with the now MKII engine most probably the most modern one in Switzerland!

SteveBorland said:

No soul, no character, just twist and go. Several years ago at Spa, during the riders' briefing prior to the first track session, they had a practice session for e-bikes. This was simply so uninteresting. The lack of engine noise, gear changing, etc., it simply removed all interest in it, not just for me but for everyone in the room (about 600 people).

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At the TT last year I spoke of the "TT Zero" race being the "TT Zero Interest Race"

I just wonder where all these cars will be charged if you don't have a drive or garage?
I'm not looking forward to the trailing cables across pavements as a pensioner.
Although a very rare occasion, people have managed to stay alive stuck in snowdrifts all night by keeping the engine and heater on.

Sigh...

Dommie Nator said:

I just wonder where all these cars will be charged if you don't have a drive or garage?
I'm not looking forward to the trailing cables across pavements as a pensioner.

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You retiring already then?!

It’s already happening. EVs plugged into chargers built into roadside lamp posts.
My advice... get to law school. This is gonna be an ambulance chasing solicitors dream...

And it goes to show how societies thinking has become warped, we live in an age of ‘elf n safety madness where conkers are banned in schools etc. In Oxford they moved lamp posts back away from the curb for ‘elf n safety. And now they’ve put EV charges in some. And because it’s a ‘holier than thou’ EV it’s perfectly OK to drape a power cable across a public walkway?

Really?!

Fast Eddie said:

You retiring already then?!

It’s already happening. EVs plugged into chargers built into roadside lamp posts.
My advice... get to law school. This is gonna be an ambulance chasing solicitors dream...

And it goes to show how societies thinking has become warped, we live in an age of ‘elf n safety madness where conkers are banned in schools etc. In Oxford they moved lamp posts back away from the curb for ‘elf n safety. And now they’ve put EV charges in some. And because it’s a ‘holier than thou’ EV it’s perfectly OK to drape a power cable across a public walkway?

Really?!

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So become a solicitor ...or a rubber handled axe supplier?

As there's not going to be a lamp post for each car, I predict a riot.